OSC’s Why pick one God over another?

“If you want to know why I don’t believe in God, it’s for the same reason you don’t believe in Allah, Krishna or Thor.” Atheists enjoy this kind of argument, it’s not a particularly sophisticated thing to say to a believer, nevertheless it’s an often repeated argument whereby unbelievers reckon they have proven some grand point. In truth however it serves two less than sincere purposes, firstly it excuses the atheist from actually giving reasons for why they believe (or disbelieve) what they do, and secondly it’s rhetorical in that it makes people who hear the catchphrase assume that religions and Gods are somehow so bland as to be interchangeable. To write an atheist rejects Christ for the same reason I reject the Buddha is to assume the Buddha and Christ are easily interchangeable figures, which of course is absurd to anybody who has studied the two even at a superficial level, by this point in the chat though the atheist is already on the nearest train to smug town! Happily self-assured they have successfully disproved all religions and all gods in the history of the universe, talk about a God delusion.

The Dawkins Delusion

High priest of atheism Richard Dawkins explaining to his faithful followers that to merely engage with what the other side is saying isn’t appropriate, they’re all the same! As we might expect from the man who said “mock them (believers in God), ridicule them, in public…with contempt,”

Still the question is helpful in some ways, since it’s important to know more than just what we believe, why you and I believe what we do is equally important. Or we could say you can’t get to the what without first knowing why, so recently I asked myself about the why, an example would be why don’t I believe in the religion of Islam, Allah and near everything which Mohammad supposedly taught. Would my reasons for rejecting his teachings (and thus rejecting Allah) be no different from their reasons for rejecting Jesus? Let’s find out.

Why do I reject Islam as a lie, Allah as a false god and Mohammad altogether? It could have something to do with the fact that Mohammad by his own confession couldn’t preform miracles, meaning he wasn’t capable of confirming his message by a miraculous sign, what Mohammad and Muslims do claim is that the Qur’an was Mohammad’s miracle proof for the things he said, but as we all know reciting stories you heard and having them later compiled into a book is no miracle. In fact even Allah confirms that despite proving prophets in the past by signs and wonders, Mohammad, his last and greatest prophet, wouldn’t be showing anything of the sort. Allah even commands Mohammad to say: “O mankind! I am (sent) to you only as a plain warner.” (S. 22:49). In fact, the Qur’an is replete with examples of Mohammad’s inability to do miracles.

And they that know not say, ‘Why does God not speak to us? Why does a sign (ayatun) not come to us?’ So spoke those before them as these men say; their hearts are much alike. Yet We have made clear the signs (bayyanna al-ayati) unto a people who are sure. S. 2:118

Yet if thou shouldst bring to those that have been given the Book every sign (ayatun), they will not follow thy direction; thou art not a follower of their direction, neither are they followers of one another’s direction. If thou followest their caprices, after the knowledge that has come to thee, then thou wilt surely be among the evildoers. S. 2:145

They also say, ‘Why has no sign (ayatun) been sent down upon him from his Lord?‘ Say: ‘Surely God is able to send down a sign (ayatan), but most of them know not.’ S. 6:37

They have sworn by God the most earnest oaths if a sign (ayatun) comes to them they will believe in it. Say: ‘Signs (al-ayatu) are only with God.’ What will make you realize that, when it comes, they will not believe? S. 6:109

They say, ‘Why has a sign (ayatun) not been sent down upon him from his Lord?‘ Say: ‘The Unseen belongs only to God. Then watch and wait; I shall be with you watching and waiting.’ S. 10:20

The unbelievers say, ‘Why has a sign (ayatun) not been sent down upon him from his Lord?’ Thou art ONLY a warner, and a guide to every people. S. 13:7

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Azmy/mhd_miracles.htm

Can the same criticism be applied to Jesus, after all atheists insist they reject God as found in Christianity for the same reason I reject Allah as found in Islam, meaning (according to atheists) God’s prophet in Christianity should be as incapable as Mohammad when it comes to miracle working. Yet Jesus Himself said:

“Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.”

Furthermore the Bible, our earliest record on the life of Jesus, contains many miracles, some of which were preformed by Jesus Himself, whereas others merely surrounded His miraculous life.

1. Born to a virgin – Miracles of Jesus

2. Changing water into wine – Miracles of Jesus

3. Healing of the royal official’s son – Miracles of Jesus

4. Healing of the Capernaum demoniac – Miracles of Jesus

5. Healing of Peter’s mother-in-law – Miracles of Jesus

6. Healing the sick during the evening – Miracles of Jesus

7. Catching a large number of fish – Miracles of Jesus

8. Healing a leper – Miracles of Jesus

9. Miracle of healing a centurion’s servant – Miracles of Jesus

10. Healing a paralyzed man – Miracles of Jesus

11. Healing a withered hand – Miracles of Jesus

12. Raising a widow’s son – Miracles of Jesus

13. Calming the storm – Miracles of Jesus

14. Healing the Gerasene man possessed by demons – Miracles of Jesus

15. Healing a woman with internal bleeding – Miracles of Jesus

16. Raising Jairus’ daughter – Miracles of Jesus

17. Healing two blind men – Miracles of Jesus

18. Healing a mute demon-possessed man – Miracles of Jesus

19. Healing a 38 year invalid – Miracles of Jesus

20. Feeding 5000 men and their families – Miracles of Jesus

21. Walking on water – Miracles of Jesus

22. Miraculous healing of many people in Gennesaret

23. Healing a girl possessed by a demon – Miracles of Jesus

24. Healing a deaf man with a speech impediment – Miracles of Jesus

25. Feeding the 4,000 men and their families – Miracles of Jesus

26. Healing a blind man – Miracles of Jesus

27. Healing a man born blind – Miracles of Jesus

28. Healing a demon-possessed boy – Miracles of Jesus

29. Catching a fish with a coin in its mouth – Miracles of Jesus

30. Healing a blind and mute man who was demon-possessed – Miracles of Jesus

31. Healing a woman with an 18-year infirmity – Miracles of Jesus

32. Healing a man with dropsy – Miracles of Jesus

33. Healing 10 lepers – Miracles of Jesus

34. Raising of Lazarus – Miracles of Jesus

35. Healing Bartimaeus of blindness – Miracles of Jesus

36. Jesus curses the fig tree with no fruit – Miracles of Jesus

37. Restoring a severed ear – Miracles of Jesus

38. The resurrection of Jesus – Miracles of Jesus

39. Catching 153 fish – Miracles of Jesus

40. The ascension of Jesus – Miracles of Jesus

http://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/miracles.htm

So Jesus openly preformed miracles, claiming to do so both by the power of God and even by His own authority, similarly the Qur’an confirms Jesus was capable of Miracles, suchlike speaking from the cradle (S 3:46). I have the Bible and even the Qur’an showing Jesus to do miracles therefore, whereas the Bible and Qur’an either lack support or disprove Mohammad’s miraculous signs, only in later and clearly embellished sources like the traditions of Islam do we find Mohammad doing miracles like you might expect a prophet of God to do. Such signs of course come hundreds of years after Mohammad had died and are at odds with other Islamic material that say the Qur’an was the one and only sign, furthermore much of the later material has the added burden of being plagiarized from the life and sayings of Jesus.

It appears then that I’m justified in rejecting one belief and its God (Allah of Islam), and upon more sound a foundation for accepting another God, Jesus Christ. Though there could easily be more reasons for rejecting one deity and not another, since we could reject Allah on the grounds that their truth to humanity only comes by way of the Qur’an and Mohammad (one mouth), whereas the Bible (comprised of 66 books) is a written record of thousands of years of history penned by shepherds, soldiers, fishermen, kings, prophets, priests and a whole host of others all of who were said to be exceptional men in one way or another. In short, the word of two holy men is superior to that of one, four reliable prophets are better than three and five are better than four, meaning thousands of years which point to Jesus are to be believed, while a lone book spoken by an illiterate who paints himself as important is less than nothing.

Once again, are atheists justified in saying they reject Jesus for the same reasons I reject Allah, not likely. Though having a little extra study time to myself I decided to add one further point for why I reject Mohammad’s Allah and not Jesus, and that’s because people can trust the words of Jesus as found in the earliest records of His life (the Gospel biographies), they’re the words of a morally impeccable man according to both His friends and foes. Mohammad however wasn’t morally impeccable, rather their moral conduct fell to the level of a common criminal much of the time, with that I have compiled this list. It’s in no way exhaustive, still it highlights how we can all reject Allah and his supposed prophet based on any one of these reasons without burning our bridges with other Gods, Goddesses or whoever one might want to follow after.

Mohammad according to Muslim sources…

….beheaded up to 900 men and boys of the Jewish Banu Qurayza tribe.
….forbid Muslims from mourning the death of non-believers.
….found his adopted son’s wife in a state of undress and began to desire her.
….caused a chain of events which led to the son and his wife getting divorced.
….married his adopted son’s wife after they had divorced.
….excused his behavior by claiming he was trying to teach his followers a lesson, the lesson being that adopted sons aren’t real sons.
….abolished adoption, making his last “lesson” nonsensical.
….dreamed about having a six year old child bride.
….was later engaged to the six year old child he had dreamed about.
….had sexual relations with the same child at nine years of age.
….punched his child bride in the chest for following after him one night.
….murdered a slave girl named Fartana for writing insulting poetry about him.
….ordered Muslims to kill a slave girl named Quraybah for writing insulting poetry about him.
….attacked a date farm named Khaibar which had been worked and started by Jewish people.
….took captive every women and child of the same city.
….desired a Jewish man’s “buried treasure” after invading his hometown.
….had the same Jewish man tortured with fire upon their chest to gain the location of the money. Saying “”Torture him until you extract what he has”
….had the Jewish man tortured until they were near death.
….had the Jewish man, whose name was Kinana, beheaded.
….was told about Safiya, the wife of Kinana, who another Muslim named Dihya Al-Kalbi had taken as his share of the war booty. Muhammad then desired this man’s war trophy.
….ordered that Dihya Al-Kalbi could trade Safiya for any other Jewish woman they had captured.
….obtained Safiya by trading other women.
….raped Safiya in his tent after having stolen her wealth, tortured her husband Kinana and ruined the land.
….married Safiya while offering no dowry.
….considered freeing Safiya from the slave status he put her under as dowry enough.
….attacked a Quraysh caravan in Badr carrying 50,000 gold Dinars guarded by 40 men, so done to further the Muslims militarily.
….persistently raped Mary the Coptic Christian.
….after raping Mary and being caught by his wives he vows an oath never to do it again, then after awhile changes his mind and says Allah has cleared him of his oath.
….continues raping Mary the Coptic slave girl.
….had the eyes of three robbers gouged out.
….left the above men to die in the heat of the desert.
….had an elderly woman ripped in half by tying her to two camels.
….had a blind man of one hundred years of age killed for throwing dust at him.
….killed the blind man’s wife because she later insulted him.
….called women mentally and spiritually deficient.
….said women make up the bulk of hell’s population.
….gave Muslim men permission to beat their wives.
….allowed Muslim men to marry four women at one time.
….married more women than four.
….claimed to have sexual relations with all of his wives on the same day.
….allowed pleasure marriage (prostitution) for Muslim men.
….ordered the death of ‘Asma’ bint Marwan because he wrote insulting poetry about him.
….ordered the death of Abu ‘Afak because he wrote insulting poetry about him.
….ordered the death of Al Nadr ibn al-Harith because he wrote insulting poetry about him.
….told an unbelieving pagan to suck on the clitorus of his goddess.
….felt too shy to make his dinner guests leave, so he invented revelation from Allah which told Muslims to leave him alone.
….lied and claimed he was found by name in the Christian scripture, while in the Christian scripture people matches his description are called Antichrist.
….lied by describing Alexander the great as Muslim.
….lied by describing Aesop as Muslim.
….allowed the breast feeding of an adult male at the door of every woman’s house to prevent sexual lusts (both immoral and stupid if one wants to stop lusting after breasts)
….wanted to divorce his wife Sauda because she had become too fat.
….made Sauda in desperate relinquish some of her marital rights just to stay with him and receive financial support.
….had Uqba bin Abu Muayt murdered because they once threw an animal’s entrails upon him while he prayed.
….had his followers kill Ka’b ibn al-Ashraf because he wrote sexually motivated poems about Muslim women.
….demanded the death of Abu Rafi’ ibn Abi Al-Huqaiq because he wrote poetry to motivate troops fighting against him.
….ordered his followers to kill Khalid ibn Sufyan because he was suspected of inciting hatred against the Muslim army.
….beheaded Abu ‘Azzah ‘Amr bin ‘Abd Allah al-Jumahi because he fought against the Muslims.
….murdered Muawiyah bin Al Mugheerah because he believed him to be a spy.
….ordered the death of Al-Harith bin Suwayd al-Ansari for rejecting Islam.
….assassinated Abu Sufyan because they led another tribe of Arabs.
….ordered the death of Abdullah ibn Ubayy because he supposedly spread rumors about his wife.
….had Al-Yusayr ibn Rizam murdered by a gang of thirty Muslim men for fear he would prepare an attack against him.
….had eight men from ‘Ukil murdered because they rejected Islam.
….killed a woman named Sarah after accusing her of molesting him.
….had Abu Afak assassinated for mocking him by poetry.
….plagiarized in word for word style from the Talmud and added them to his Koran.
….plagiarized from the Talmud then claimed the words had come from the Torah.
….plagiarized in word for word style of the Torah and added them to his Koran.
….plagiarized Jesus’ parable of the workers in the vineyard.
….plagiarized Jesus’ parable of the ten virgins.
….plagiarized Jesus’ Prayer to the Lord.
….plagiarized Jesus’ saying of a camel through the eye of a needle.
….plagiarized Jesus’ judgement day saying.
….plagiarized Jesus’ words upon the cross.
….plagiarized Jesus’ saying of “Blessed are those who haven’t seen me, yet still believe.”
….plagiarized Saul’s saying of “No eye has seen, nor ear has heard.” Then said they had come from Allah.
….told Muslims they shouldn’t ask the people of the book about their holy books (after having plagiarized their content.)
….scolded a woman who had been beaten green by her husband when she came to him for help.
….destroyed hundreds of idols in Mecca thus stopping people from living out their religion.
….commanded Muslim followers to drive the Christians and Jew out of the Arabian peninsula.
….ordered Muslim followers to fight and murder Christians and Jewish people.
….ordered Muslims to “lay in ambush” and to attack non-believers with “every stratagem of war.”
….allowed believers in Islam to marry per-pubescent girls.
….forbids people to wear items of gold.
….forbids believers to pee while standing upright.
….launched a surprise attack and invasion upon Banu Mustaliq while they were unaware and watering their cattle.
….sold captured women in the next town over after seizing them as war booty.
….allowed Muslim followers to rape their captured women.
….allowed believers in Islam to perform cotus interruptus on their female captives.
….allowed believers in Islam to perform cotus interruptus on their female captives in front of their husbands.
….committed adultery with married women.
….reneged on peace treaties.
….invaded Al Kudr.
….invaded Sawiq to kill two Muslims.
….invaded Banu Qaynuqa for the purpose of conducting “revenge killings” on behalf of a Muslim.
….declared believing Muslims are allowed to lie in the spread of their faith.
….reneged on supposed revelation from Allah.
….mistook Mary the mother of Jesus for Miriam the sister of Aaron then lied to cover up his lack of knowledge.
….defied himself by having Muslims talk to him during their daily prayer.
….changed his name to the word Muhammad, which means “the one worthy of praise.” Making himself an object of praise and worship.
….stole directly from God who is alone worthy of praise.
….claimed to intercede for Muslims on judgement day, again taking a role of God.
….broke his own orders by giving special privileges to his favorite wife Aisha, neglecting his other wives.
….lied about getting special revelation while wearing Aisha’s dress (or mattress) to justify treating her unfairly.

Are the above criticisms also applicable to Buddha, Shiva or Jesus the Christ and His Father in Heaven? We could say yes, but we’d be liars for doing so. Meaning when atheists bring an argument of “If you want to know why I don’t believe in God, it’s for the same reason you don’t believe in Allah, Krishna or Thor.”  It can be said they know next to nothing about any belief system (their own included!). Christians reject Islam, Mohammad and Allah for all of the above and much more, moreover they reject Allah because the Qur’an was spoken by a known liar who allowed lies in the spread and defense of his views, for which Allah’s lone book which is poorly defined as a miracle is more than likely untrustworthy, untruthful and only fit for creating confusion. Perhaps if atheists can grasp the plain truth that religions, Gods and beliefs differ wildly they can outgrow their often juvenile arguments, though in doing that they may soon shed their atheism altogether!

― T. C. M

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